An interview with
following questions were emailed to me by Suprina Walvekar, a college student
who is interested in the
near-death experience and who wrote a term paper on the subject. Her questions were very
good so I spent a considerable amount of time answering them.
What started out to be a simple reply to an email message, turned out to
be a good interview of my own opinions concerning NDEs. So I decided to post them
for anyone wanting to know my personal opinions about the NDE. Feel free to use this information in any
way you wish.
My responses will be updated from time to time as my
opinion on this subject evolves. These answers are only my own 2 cents worth.
Although I live, eat, breathe, and sleep NDEs, I don't claim to be a NDE expert on the subject. There are many experts in
this field who are far more qualified than I am. I have never had a NDE - at
least not in this lifetime. We have all died and been reborn numerous
times throughout history. This is perhaps one reason why
NDE research is so popular - it reminds us of the afterlife knowledge we
already know at a deeper and higher conscious level.
And although I am no NDE expert, I am a NDE
fanatic whose computer skills and manic depressive permanent disability
allows me to
express my NDE mania twenty four hours a day and seven days a week if I
desire. This obsession I have for NDE research has helped me keep my
sanity while incorporating this higher knowledge into my life. A person
doesn't need to have a NDE to have the life-changing effects that comes
by actually having one. NDE research has certainly brought together my
scientific, religious, and metaphysical knowledge and made them
compatible. It is my desire that others can find the satisfaction I have
had from studying NDEs and NDE research. With this in mind, here is the
interview questions and answers I shared with Suprina Walvekar.
What are you hoping
to learn from researching NDEs?
Kevin Williams: Foremost, I would
like to find hard scientific proof of life after death. Specifically, I hope
to learn for certain that consciousness survives well after bodily death. There is
of circumstantial evidence that this is the case, but very little scientific
evidence. But, it may be asking too much to obtain scientific evidence
of life after death. Existence of the consciousness after death may not be scientifically
quantifiable. I also would like to go beyond proof of life after death and
discover exactly what life after
death like? Is there some kind of divine plan for us? What does it mean to
experience God? These are some of the questions I want to learn from near-death
Walvekar: What kinds of NDE reports
intrigue you the
Kevin Williams: The experiences that interest me the most are
those where people witness events while out of their bodies and are later verified
to have occurred. I already have a few such
experiences documented on my website. While experiences have been documented, they
still only provide circumstantial evidence and not hard scientific evidence.
The experiences of people born blind interest me tremendously.
Studies suggest that people born blind
do have vision while out of their bodies. For them, it is the first time in
their lives they have vision. Experiences revealing the
reality of reincarnation fascinate me. Experiences that bring back information
about the future are extremely interesting to me. Finally, I am also interested in
experiences that do not fit the typical profile.
Such experiences suggest that the spirit realms are dynamic and not static.
Suprina Walvekar: What do you think is the most important information you learned
from researching NDEs?
By far, the most important fact I have found from these experiences is how
critically important love is. The NDE appears
to be an encounter with the Source of all the love in the
universe. It is as Dannion Brinkley was
told, "Love is the difference that God makes." Many experiencers
have learned that love, the spirit of unlimited and unconditional
compassion, is God. They suggest that this love is the highest form of
religion there is. They also suggest that the way to these higher spiritual
conditions of afterlife bliss is
through practicing unconditional love here on Earth. Those who do not practice
love in the physical will have difficulty experiencing it in the spiritual.
This is because the spiritual realms are experienced within us.
Another important fact I have learned from
the idea that we are currently dwelling in the afterlife right now. The physical universe
is only one of many realms in the
afterlife. Some experiences, such as that of Edgar
Cayce, suggest that our physical universe is a realm that is
roughly half-way between the lowest afterlife realm and the highest.
In a real sense, we may actually be half-way to heaven. We are working our way
upward like a grade school student working toward high school and
graduation. This is what I have learned
from these types of experiences.
Suprina Walvekar: How would you
describe a typical NDE?
typical NDE would have some of the common
aspects found in many other NDEs. It begins when
people leave their physical body. Sometimes they see their bodies trying to
be resuscitated or hear someone declare them dead. They may
hear the thoughts and
experiencing the feelings of the living people around their physical
They may be sucked into a vortex or tunnel that
appears to connect the physical realm to another
realm. They may come into contact with
a being made
out of extraordinary light emanating tremendous
love. This being knows everything about them yet holds no judgment at all.
They may be
reunited with loved ones and friends who have already died. They may then
have their entire life instantaneously replayed - every thought, feeling, and
act. Then, they may find themselves before some kind of barrier that is a point of no
return. They may then be told their mission is not
complete or their time to die has not yet come or some
variation of this. Eventually, they will find themselves back in their
body. After having a NDE, the person may discover that he/she is
not the same anymore. There are some reported common after-effects
that many people have after having a NDE. They may also be in need of information
or even support. The internet
also provides a wealth of information on this subject.
Suprina Walvekar: What aspect of
a NDE catches your attention the
life review is said to be one of the most amazing and enlightening aspect of the
This is because your life is revealed in a reality that leaves no question
During a life review, every question you may possibly have is
ultimately answered. You don't merely witness your life flash before
your eyes, you actually relive your entire life on Earth
instantaneously - every thought, emotion and deed. And it is not only your
thoughts, emotions, and deeds you experience. You
experience every thought, feeling and deed of everyone you have ever come in
contact with - even brief encounters with strangers. Some have described
it as instantaneously becoming everyone in your life. You see your life from every possible
perspective and angle: your own perspective, other people's perspective and God's
perspective. Every possible
thing you want to know about your life is there for you to review and
study from a dimension where time doesn't exist. The
life review is for educational purposes - not for judgmental purposes.
Some people, namely very strict religious people, may feel the life review
is some form of judgment; but these people usually realize at the end of
it that it is only self-judgment. Sometimes
the life review is not limited to just one life, but many lifetimes. One experiencer, Dr. George Rodonaia, reported
instantaneously living in the minds of everyone throughout history who
ever lived. He was able to living in the mind of Jesus and his disciples.
I enjoy the tremendous emotions of love and happiness
that people feel during these experiences.
Although these experiences have similarities to each other, each one is
unique because each person has a unique perspective and perception. But,
love is the universal factor.
These experiences can be highly emotional.
These emotions can run the full range of expression throughout these
experiences. It can begin with the initial fear of dying. Then it can
transform into curiosity when the person leaves their body. Then they
might experience a profound peace they cannot express. When the light
appears, the emotions change to that of experiencing a homecoming of love
that one believes they have never before known. Then complete
satisfaction, understanding and awe can come as a result of the life
review. The ecstasy of being one with all things and God can be
incredible. But then disappointment comes from discovering you must
leave and return to your body. Then the pain returns once you are in your
body again. The frustration about the inability to tell others about
it can arise. Also, a tremendous depression can come - along with a
profound homesickness for heaven. It appears that every possible human
emotion - in its rawest and magnified form - can be found in these experiences.
These are very powerful emotional experiences that forever
changes people. No other experience even comes close.
Suprina Walvekar: Did the NDE reports you have read and researched take away your fear of
Kevin Williams: Very much so. It is very difficult to read these kinds
of experiences and
not have them take away your fear of death. These experiences show that death
is actually an illusion and that we are already living in the
afterlife right now. Death is just a brief transition from one dimension to another.
In fact, reading these accounts has only made me eager to return
These experiences are contagious. The deeply profound,
enormous unconditional love described by them, can overwhelm those who read
about them. They speak to my heart in ways that I feel I have already
known, but just forgotten.
The complete lack of the fear of death which experiencers have as a result of their NDE is a strong testimony that
there is nothing to fear about death. Madame Marie Curie once said, "Nothing in life is to be
feared, only understood." Once we understand the nature of death by
reading about these experiences, there is nothing to fear about them. Of
course, everyone fears the pain that can occur during the dying process.
But once this door has been crossed, and if you are generally
a good person, there is nothing to fear about death. As one little girl
stated after her NDE: "Life is the hard part. The light is for
later." For those who practice hatred, murder, and harm to others,
however, it is the
afterlife that may be the hard part and may be feared.
Walvekar: Did you look at life differently after you first read some of
these NDE reports?
Kevin Williams: Very much so. Before I knew about
NDEs, I was a
fundamentalist Christian who was absolutely certain that
when I die, I would be carried to the highest heaven to be forever before
the very throne of God. But, after reading several NDEs,
such as that of Dr. George Ritchie, I realized that
merely believing in Jesus is not enough to attain heaven. I
learned that one must become as Christ himself
practicing unconditional love
for others to reach this level of bliss. It means we get to heaven by
emulating the love of Jesus rather than by worshipping him. Reading NDEs
cracked my rigid religious mindset and made my religious beliefs to be
completely ridiculous at best.
NDEs, I discovered a spirituality and understanding I could
through religion alone. The great thing about these experiences is that you don't need to have
one to benefit from them. All that is necessary is to read what others have
experienced and put what they have learned into practice. Reading what they
have learned will give you a larger
understanding, the big picture, of reality. This includes the
nature of God, life, love, and the afterlife. No other way, short of
having an experience yourself, can give you this understanding.
Walvekar: If you could tell us one important lesson in life, according to
your NDE research, what would it be?
Without a doubt,
the most important lesson NDEs teach us is the
supreme importance of unconditional love. Love is where we all came
from and love is where we will all eventually return. Love is what
life is really all about. Learning and growing in unconditional love is why we are
all here on this blue marble called Earth. Life itself is
God. Love itself is God. Everyone and everything is a part of God. All things are held together by
the power of love. Love is the way to
eternal bliss and the way to overcome the cycle of birth, death, and
rebirth. There is no greater force in the universe than unconditional love because
it is universal and divine. The more love we cultivate within ourselves and the
more love we give to others and the more we evolve towards embodying unconditional love, then
the closer we come to our goal - liberation from death. True love can
Love and knowledge are the only things we can really take with us when we
die. Death doesn't change
much of anything. I like how one particular experiencer, Chuck Griswold,
put it. He said death is merely a body problem. This is so
true. We are also continually born into this world and subjected to death
until we have evolved and embodied unconditional love as Buddha and Jesus
did. We don't go to heaven. We grow to heaven to become
permanent citizens of heaven. The kingdom of heaven is within us. When it
becomes fully manifested within ourselves and the world through
unconditional love, then we are no longer the prodigal children away from
God. To manifest our higher spirit of love within us into conscious
reality is the way we return to our origins - to the Source of All Things.
Then wherever we find ourselves, heaven will always be manifested within
us and we will always be in heaven - never to die again. This is the
evolutionary goal of humanity.
What do you believe is the ultimate meaning
behind NDEs if you could tell us in one or two sentences?
Kevin Williams: Everything is a part of God
because God is life, light, and love.
Practicing unconditional love is the evolutionary key for humanity
to obtain eternal life (no more death) and death is just a threshold
briefly cross over to another way of life.
"Love is the answer. Any questions?" - Kevin Williams
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